Longtime commissioner and current Chairman of the Haywood County Board of Commissioners Kevin Ensley is seeking re-election to his seat, as is fellow Republican Brandon Rogers.ย
Challenging them are two Democrats, Leah Hampton and David Young. Both are running their first campaigns for elected office, and both have plenty of ideas as to how the county could better address not only the relatively recent issue of the Coronavirus pandemic, but also many of the legacy issues affecting residents in recent years.ย
Voters can choose any two of the candidates for the commission, which is currently controlled by Republicans by a four-to-one margin.ย
As a county, we were relatively proactive when the Coronavirus Pandemic emerged in mid-March. With the benefit of hindsight, how do you feel we did in responding to it?ย
Kevin Ensley: We were about right. I feel like we listened to our health professionals. We also listened to the public because we had contacts from folks who were concerned about the vacationers coming into our area and staying, so we went ahead and kind of shut that down for a period of time. What we needed was guidance from the state and the federal government on what protocols we should be doing, like wearing masks and social distancing. Now that we know what our protocols are, even for restaurants, they can work in such a way to make sure that we keep quelling the virus. I hate that thatโs become a political issue. It really shouldnโt be because we trust our doctors and the CDC to be able to give us the information on how we can keep this at bay, and thatโs what they do.
Leah Hampton: Iโm really proud of the county health department officials. This was unpredictable in every possible way. Overall, I think we have done better than most counties in the region. I think we have been more respectful of the science, but the reality of being a community that has a lot of tourists does mean that weโve had some whoโve come here from out of state who have maybe violated quarantine. I think thereโs been some looking away from stuff that we could have been far more careful about. Hindsight is 20/20. Iโm sure itโs been a challenge for local law enforcement and I wouldnโt begin to criticize what I think theyโve tried to do but I think weโve reached a point where everybody knows this is real. It took six months and if we get to a point where, for example, the governor is issuing a real strong lockdown or something, I think we have to abide by it.
Brandon Rogers: Hindsight is always 20/20 and you learn a whole lot, especially when you have a pandemic hit like this. None of us had ever seen something like this before so I guess looking back, I wouldnโt have changed anything that we did. I feel like we were proactive and took the right steps and the measurements that we did, and I feel like that it was a big part of why we didnโt have any more cases than we did. Unfortunately since then, we have had some deaths and our numbers have went up, but Iโm not sure what we could have done differently.
David Young: I think we got off to a really good start implementing some of the things youโve talked about, hindsight being what it is. I would love to have seen a strong educational push at the beginning about masks, about social distancing, explaining how that stuff works at the nuts-and-bolts level. A lot of people get lost in the scientific jargon. They look at a journal of medicine entry and donโt know how to get through the abstract. If somebody had broken that down and explained it in laymanโs terms โ โthis is why we want you doing these thingsโ โ I think maybe the pushback weโre experiencing now wouldnโt have happened.
And the pandemic isnโt going away on Nov. 4, or in December, maybe even months after that. How will we continue to manage this?
Leah Hampton: My understanding is that that county tax revenues have not taken the hit we anticipated. Thereโs been a hit, but it has not been as big. I think it has been a good faith effort. This is one of the few advantages to having a Republican-controlled county commission is they are extremely fiscally-minded and so there have been some investments. And I think there are some rainy day funds available plus state and federal funds. People in this community have to be healthy and businesses in this community are going to continue to struggle and are going to need help. And I think we have to have a very real conversation at the county level and even at the individual municipal level about what kind of sacrifices those governments can make and what kinds of incentives we can offer to preserve not just businesses but facilities so that people have jobs to go to.
Brandon Rogers: We have to let our businesses operate on a normal basis, but I feel like whatโs most important is the โthree Wโs.โ Weโve got to wear a mask, weโve got to keep our distance from each other and be sure weโre washing our hands and keeping ourselves clean. If we do those three things, I feel like thatโs the most important, but we have to let our businesses continue to run.
David Young: I donโt envy the guys at the local level. County government is second up from the bottom. We are at the bottom of a hill and we have to wait for the feds to kick stuff down the hill, then it hits the state and loses that momentum and then we have to wait for it to come down from the state to the county level. So, itโs going to depend a lot on what happens above us, what weโre able to afford to do. I think we can still do the education. I think we can still keep a mask mandate in place. I think we can still keep social distancing in place. I think this is going to get worse as we enter flu season, as we enter the colder months and more people are pushed to congregate inside. I think we need to be incredibly vigilant because 215,000 dead people is not something to play around with.
Kevin Ensley: I think that thereโs a lot of good news. We got the funds from the federal government which helped pay for some of the extra costs we had but since the protocols have been in place our county, I donโt know if you heard but June was the highest sales tax we had ever received. So I feel like the economy for our area, anyway โ I know nationally, it might not be up where it needs to be โ I think in our area itโs doing great. Our occupancy tax was the highest in July itโs ever been. I feel like that industry has come back.
The pandemic has also exposed the high-speed internet problem โ itโs not a luxury or a convenience anymore. Kids are sitting in cars outside fast food restaurants and firehouses, doing their homework. What can you do to help?
Brandon Rogers: This is one of my top three issues. We, we are a Tier 3 county [as designated by the state, meaning among the most prosperous], which restricts us from getting certain funding from a state or federal level. One of the first steps we could do is work with our legislators, both from a state and federal level and be sure that we get appropriate funding to fix it. We just need to continue to work with them to get to proper funding so that we can fix it, even if itโs getting broadband through satellite services. We got kids that drive to the community center or Taco Bell to sit in the parking lot to do their homework. It shouldnโt be that way.ย
David Young: I would absolutely push to have that law [that restricts local governments from providing internet services] overturned. That was a bad law. You can follow the money and see why that law passed. It doesnโt prohibit municipalities from offering broadband. It makes it very difficult for them to offer broadband. There are loopholes, there are work-arounds. I think we should be looking at that. We should have the county attorney, and the different municipalities should have their town attorneys looking at those options. The only thing thatโs going to work to get these bigger companies, these high-speed providers in here is if weโre already building the infrastructure, if weโre already showing that there is a market and that weโre willing to go after that market if theyโre not.ย
Kevin Ensley: Weโre continuing to work on broadband. We have a committee that meets. Itโs really frustrating. And I feel like Haywood Electric Membership Corporation can be a big part of that solution. Iโve heard rumblings that theyโre maybe going to start getting on board. One of the strengths that we have in our county for broadband would be to have wireless towers put in. I personally have Skyrunner, which is where I get my internet. Weโve talked about maybe working with them to find sites. I know weโre putting a site in to try to help the Lake Logan area on the south end of the county and if we put that sat that site there, we would be willing to partner with either Skyrunner or a telecom to be able to place their equipment on those towers.
Leah Hampton: There was a committee that did a lot of research on this, but theyโre kind of stymied in two ways, one by some statewide limitations but then also by the pandemic, which limits some of their ability to implement some of their objectives right now. There are grants available from multiple organizations that could help with buying materials and laying cable. There are community centers in the county that have good internet. We have the library for example, right? I think if we have a tiered approach looking at building on what that committee has done โ first priority would be making sure that educators and students in the region can get internet for classes, as long as they need it. We donโt meet certain qualifications with Tier 3, so we canโt get those dollars. Weโve been mislabeled there.ย
Letโs talk about economic development. Recently we spent some money on infrastructure, to make a vacant parcel more attractive to developers. What do you think the role of the county should be in encouraging economic development like that?ย
David Young: I love the free market. I obviously have some capitalist blood in me. The free market does not work in rural areas. Itโs the exact same reason Charterโs not going to pay $200,000 to run a high-speed internet line up the side of a mountain for 20 houses. Their payoff is 50 years and they donโt care. They donโt want those customers. Theyโre not going to take on that investment once that happens. I think you have to have a quality of life metric โ what is available here for businesses? What is available here for residents? If private industry isnโt willing to step in to fill those deficits, I think it becomes the responsibility of government to make sure that we have an industrial park that is marketable. We paid for that land. Weโre still paying for that land, and itโs sitting unused and empty. If we have to pay $150,000 to run a sewer line to sell a multimillion-dollar parcel of land thatโs a pretty easy math problem for me.
Kevin Ensley: Being a land surveyor, any time weโre dealing with land issues or ordinances, especially water and sewer expansion, I really know where most of those lines already are and potential places where they could be. I know when we were looking at the Highway 209 corridor, I knew that there was a possibility that we could get sewer down through there because we needed it for the truck stops and the school. It kind of gives me a leg up on all those top issues. You know, the more water and sewer expansion we have, the better we can do economic development or workforce housing or affordable housing to where people can carve their lots a little bit smaller and you can get more density on the property.
Leah Hampton: Thereโs other ways to do it. For example, if we place conditions on things like that. So if you want this extension or if you want this property to be approved, well that needs to be a win-win situation, right? I think the definition of win-win situation for a lot of people on the current commission is purely fiscal and purely fiscal for a very narrow portion of people in the county. My instinct would have been to lean against voting for it until I knew more about what the conditions being placed on the company that would be doing this were, for example, requiring that their build meet LEED standards, requiring that they employ a certain number of people, making sure that they were contributing a fair amount of tax so that the roads into that facility water and sewer, all that kind of stuff, that weโre getting a return on investment.
Brandon Rogers: I feel like we have made some major strides in helping attract some businesses over the last three or four years now. Unfortunately, the packages are a little more eye-catching in bordering counties. Weโve had several people that looked at our area, loved our area, but unfortunately going back to broadband and other issues that we have here in these mountains they decided to go elsewhere. I feel like we can sweeten them a little more to do a better job. We have drawn the attention of some big key players and matter of fact, weโre talking to some now. Seems like we get right there where weโve about got them and then they make a decision to go elsewhere. So weโre close. We just need to do a little more work.ย
And then, thereโs homelessness, which is becoming a bigger and bigger issue here. Whatโs the role of county government in addressing that problem?
Leah Hampton: I think that there are organizations in the community, private organizations and nonprofit organizations that do a great deal in that regard. I think we stand in their way a little bit. I think the community response is one that is kind of knee-jerk and doesnโt really think about the data of how these programs can work and can truly help people. I would like to see county government assisting those organizations. Maybe it doesnโt even have to necessarily be financially but the short answer is no, we are not busing people out of Haywood County and if I lose this election because Iโm not going to discriminate against homeless people, so be it.
Brandon Rogers: Thatโs a tricky question. I feel like when you talk about our homeless situation, Iโm not so sure that government should play a part in that. I would hope that our faith-based programs and churches would take care of that. I just donโt feel like government has much of a place other than when funding is available that comes down from the state or the federal level that has to pass through us. Of course, we have to approve that kind of thing, but I feel like the help there should be more from faith-based programs in church.
David Young: Stable housing is the foundation for everything. If you have a substance use disorder and youโre in unstable housing, your chances of recovery plummet. If you have a mental health issue and youโre trying to manage it and youโre in unstable housing, your chances of managing it plummet. Health issues, disabilities, poverty, domestic issues, all those things just get amplified when youโre in an unstable situation. We need to get people off the streets and into stable housing. If it has to be a hotel room for a couple of months, thatโs better than a parking lot. Thatโs better than a park bench. Thatโs better than a tent out in the woods. We need to start moving people into their own homes. Thatโs one of the reasons Iโm running. In the 20 years Iโve been here, rent has gone up, utilities have gone up, taxes have gone up, fees have gone up. Wages are the same. Wages havenโt budged in 20 years. And weโre wondering why people who were struggling when rent was $600 a month 20 years ago are now out on the streets when rent is $1,200 a month, and theyโre still making $2.13 an hour as a server.
Kevin Ensley: I know theyโre working on a low barrier shelter, and I think thatโll help with town of Waynesville. Also, Iโve noticed with the low barrier shelter that we have, it seems like to me that thatโs helped that community by giving these folks a place to stay and maybe giving them a linkage to treatment. They told me one of the girls got a job, you know but was staying in the shelter. She got her feet back under her and she was able to get a job. I want to feel like itโs helped calm the neighborhood down as far as these people arenโt wandering around everywhere. I know thereโs still homeless people, but I think it gives a segment of the homeless people somewhere to stay. And it helps them get on their feet to where they can get back and get a job and maybe even get into housing that they can pay for. Iโd like to see that move forward as much as we can.
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Meet the candidates
Kevin Ensley
โขโAge: 59
โขโResidence: Iron Duff
โขโExperience: Four-term commissioner
Leah Hampton
โขโAge: 47
โขโResidence: Waynesville
โขโExperience: First campaign
Brandon Rogers
โขโAge: 49
โขโResidence: Bethel
โขโExperience: One-term commissioner
David Young
โขโAge: 43
โขโResidence: Haywood County
โขโExperience: First campaign
